After reading “A Perversion Not Commonly Noted” by Margaret Otis, lesbianism in delinquent girls in reform schools is discussed. I found it very interesting how the difference in color took place of difference in sex. It states that, “Opinions differ as to which one starts the affair. Some- times the white girls writes first, and sometimes the colored. " It might be either way," said one colored girl. What difference would it make if it were a white girl who made the first move? Would this suggest anything?
After I finished reading Judith Butler's Imitation and Gender Insubordination, I got very confused. Perhaps it is because the passage is too academic and lengthy.
I didn't get the author's main idea. It seems to me she wants to make an argument that homosexuality and heterosexuality are two different parallel concepts and it is wrong to impose compulsory heterosexual identities to homosexual people. Neither of the two sexualities is the derivative or imitation of the other. However, after she made this point. She then stated that actually homosexuality(gayness) is an inverted imitation of heterosexuality.
Although she said the inversion analogy is from a psychic angle, I still don't know the logic here.
In Eve Kosofky Sedgwick's article titled How to Bring Your Kids Up Gay, I realized how hard it is to be socially acceptable and gay. Sedgwick notes that homosexuals are generally more accepted when they are portrayed a) as grown up and b) act masculine. This implies there is a certain image that homosexuals must conform to. Why is it that masculine homosexuals are accepted with less resistance? Why does society only accept homosexuality under these conditions?
In the reading 'A Perversion Not Commonly Noted', it seems that one of the reasons why the girls are having affairs is that they have no better things to do. Is that the reason why their relationship would not last after they leave the place?
in the article how bring your kids up gay, sedgwick talks about the gender identity disorder, is there anything that causes it of can it be prevented or diagnosed before the baby is born?
After reading "A Perversion Not Commonly Noted", I wonder to what extent homosexuality and race are interrelated, and how the "forbidden fruit" factor affects the two ideas. Are these girls actually interested in other women and other races, or do they do it because society frowns upon such actions?
The reading, Imitation and Gender Insubordination, discusses about how lesbianism is considered as "an object of prohibition" within contemporary U.S. politics. However, how does the politics qualify lesbianism as something that we should avoid in society? Or, how is this impact related to the oppression of homosexuals towards the society?
After reading "A Perversion Not Commonly Noted," I was intrigued by the idea of the "forbidden fruit" and its role, if any, in homosexuality. Do you think homosexuality has an even greater appeal to it simply because dominant social norms "forbid" such acts?
In "A Perversion Not Commonly Noted," I wonder how far the concept of "forbidden fruit" actually affects their desire of relationship. It's been known that humans always want what they can't have, and the concept of forbidden love is common to be a turn on for both hetero or homosexual relationship. Are these girls in pursue a relationship truly out of love or just trying to cross some boundary and adrenaline impulse?
After reading looking for M-.... I was wondering how many queer black films are there out there and what type of market is there for them? It seems that the author highlights many examples; however none of them are recognizable to me. I wonder if there are any mainstream examples of this genre of film?
"A Perversion Not Commonly Noted",it made me feel that the rate of change towards thee acceptance of gays in society is increasing through out history. My question is what has sparked such an increase in acceptance throughout history.
After reading "A Peversion Not Commonly Noted" by Margaret Otis, I was confused about the reason why the black and white school girls were separated. Was it just because the white and black girls were having affairs or was there racism and segregation involved too? Also, in what time period were these affairs occurring?
After reading “A Perversion Not Commonly Noted” by Margaret Otis, lesbianism in delinquent girls in reform schools is discussed. I found it very interesting how the difference in color took place of difference in sex. It states that, “Opinions differ as to which one starts the affair. Some- times the white girls writes first, and sometimes the colored. " It might be either way," said one colored girl. What difference would it make if it were a white girl who made the first move? Would this suggest anything?
ReplyDeleteAfter I finished reading Judith Butler's Imitation and Gender Insubordination, I got very confused. Perhaps it is because the passage is too academic and lengthy.
ReplyDeleteI didn't get the author's main idea. It seems to me she wants to make an argument that homosexuality and heterosexuality are two different parallel concepts and it is wrong to impose compulsory heterosexual identities to homosexual people. Neither of the two sexualities is the derivative or imitation of the other. However, after she made this point. She then stated that actually homosexuality(gayness) is an inverted imitation of heterosexuality.
Although she said the inversion analogy is from a psychic angle, I still don't know the logic here.
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ReplyDeleteIn Eve Kosofky Sedgwick's article titled How to Bring Your Kids Up Gay, I realized how hard it is to be socially acceptable and gay. Sedgwick notes that homosexuals are generally more accepted when they are portrayed a) as grown up and b) act masculine. This implies there is a certain image that homosexuals must conform to. Why is it that masculine homosexuals are accepted with less resistance? Why does society only accept homosexuality under these conditions?
ReplyDeleteIn the reading 'A Perversion Not Commonly Noted', it seems that one of the reasons why the girls are having affairs is that they have no better things to do. Is that the reason why their relationship would not last after they leave the place?
ReplyDeletein the article how bring your kids up gay, sedgwick talks about the gender identity disorder, is there anything that causes it of can it be prevented or diagnosed before the baby is born?
ReplyDeleteAfter reading "A Perversion Not Commonly Noted", I wonder to what extent homosexuality and race are interrelated, and how the "forbidden fruit" factor affects the two ideas. Are these girls actually interested in other women and other races, or do they do it because society frowns upon such actions?
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The reading, Imitation and Gender Insubordination, discusses about how lesbianism is considered as "an object of prohibition" within contemporary U.S. politics. However, how does the politics qualify lesbianism as something that we should avoid in society? Or, how is this impact related to the oppression of homosexuals towards the society?
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ReplyDeleteAfter reading "A Perversion Not Commonly Noted," I was intrigued by the idea of the "forbidden fruit" and its role, if any, in homosexuality. Do you think homosexuality has an even greater appeal to it simply because dominant social norms "forbid" such acts?
ReplyDeleteIn "A Perversion Not Commonly Noted," I wonder how far the concept of "forbidden fruit" actually affects their desire of relationship. It's been known that humans always want what they can't have, and the concept of forbidden love is common to be a turn on for both hetero or homosexual relationship. Are these girls in pursue a relationship truly out of love or just trying to cross some boundary and adrenaline impulse?
ReplyDeleteAfter reading looking for M-.... I was wondering how many queer black films are there out there and what type of market is there for them? It seems that the author highlights many examples; however none of them are recognizable to me. I wonder if there are any mainstream examples of this genre of film?
ReplyDelete"A Perversion Not Commonly Noted",it made me feel that the rate of change towards thee acceptance of gays in society is increasing through out history. My question is what has sparked such an increase in acceptance throughout history.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading "A Peversion Not Commonly Noted" by Margaret Otis, I was confused about the reason why the black and white school girls were separated. Was it just because the white and black girls were having affairs or was there racism and segregation involved too? Also, in what time period were these affairs occurring?
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